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Post  Marmaduke on Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:19 am

Here i've calculated the total cost of a plant to grow to harvest, where the total cost is the cost to water+the original cost of the seed:

time in hours
bears fruit (max time)=B
wilts if not watered for=W
cost to buy=C

[(B/W)+C]/SQ=Efficiency(GOLD PER FOOT)
example:
BL
E=[(288/36)+5]/2
E=6.5

note: the smaller the number the more cost effective the plant^_^

The original concept for the idea was first noted by John McP (San Diego, CA), when he noted the square foot per day that was saved for plants, and put them in order of highest value first. Little has changed in the order of the list since the cost was added to the calculation but it is interesting to note the, although the Loveflower and the Christmas Tree have different care instructions, the cost effectiveness is exactly the same^_^


Pink Plant & Poppy=1.5
Loveflower & Christmas Tree=2.67
Moyogi Bonsai=2.9
Opis Centiflora=3.15
Chie & Taiyo Bonsai=3.3
Iceflower & Poinsettia=4
Apis Melliflora=4.73
Carmena Uniflora=5
Duclia Somniflora & Carmena Aviflora=5.2
Rosa Amora & Solaris Igniflorus=5.45
Stella Velleflora & Luna Serena=5.92
Opis Magiflora=6.3
Bellis Lycaena, Nestflower & Thornbloom herbs=6.5
Cumulus Albiflorus=7
Sundragon & Springcrown Herbs=7.3
Snowstar & Nightrose Herbs=7.83
Mountain Whisper herb=8.5
Flora Praecocia=9.5
Rosa Praecocia & Tulipa Praecocia=10.83
Fructus Randomus=11
Odonata Igniflora & Lilium Ranidae=14.5


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Post  nicolle on Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:00 am

I saw this on the other board. It's rather mind blowing Shocked
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Post  Marmaduke on Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:08 am

nicolle wrote:I saw this on the other board. It's rather mind blowing Shocked
actually, i've just had a thought about that which isn't making things any easier to think about:
trying to factor in the plants that give gold upon harvesting causes the numbers to sometimes go negative, meaning super efficient... the problem is that the more efficient plants result in having higher negative numbers, which means there must be a better way to work it:/
currently toying with the idea of multiplying the major result by the sq ft instead of dividing it, or making it a reciprocal of the recent equation...:/
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Post  nicolle on Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:28 am

Oh, yes, I think you should definitely do one of those things... *thinks: what the heck is he talking about now???* Rolling Eyes
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Post  Naughty Gingerbread Ninja on Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:50 pm

It's pretty cool

*sorry Marm, no idea what you're saying* Surprised
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Post  Marmaduke on Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:53 pm

nicolle wrote:... *thinks: what the heck is he talking about now???* Rolling Eyes
Naughty Gingerbread Ninja wrote:... *sorry Marm, no idea what you're saying* Surprised
let's see if i can explain this, err, if you grow a plant that gives you 100 gold upon harvesting it and saves 5 sq foot of rain forest that should be rather efficient (money wise), and indeed the end result is a number that is negative by 65 or something.
now, a plant that gives 100 gold on harvesting but saves 10 sq foot of rain forest should be more efficient, therefor be an even lower number, but using this equation, the result is half the negative number, say minus 32 - but that's closer to zero, and a higher number:/
so i've gone wrong with the maths somewhere:/
or maybe i've gone right but am thinking about it wrong, ://
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Post  nicolle on Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:17 pm

Marmaduke wrote:
nicolle wrote:... *thinks: what the heck is he talking about now???* Rolling Eyes
Naughty Gingerbread Ninja wrote:... *sorry Marm, no idea what you're saying* Surprised
let's see if i can explain this, err, if you grow a plant that gives you 100 gold upon harvesting it and saves 5 sq foot of rain forest that should be rather efficient (money wise), and indeed the end result is a number that is negative by 65 or something.
now, a plant that gives 100 gold on harvesting but saves 10 sq foot of rain forest should be more efficient, therefor be an even lower number, but using this equation, the result is half the negative number, say minus 32 - but that's closer to zero, and a higher number:/
so i've gone wrong with the maths somewhere:/
or maybe i've gone right but am thinking about it wrong, ://

Mmm. Wouldn't you say, Abby?
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Post  Liz on Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:18 pm

I think we need to give you a new super name - "Math Man"! Your super powers would involve solving high level equations with a Pen (yes you heard me - Math Man need no pencil). study
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Post  Naughty Gingerbread Ninja on Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:33 pm

nicolle wrote:
Marmaduke wrote:
nicolle wrote:... *thinks: what the heck is he talking about now???* Rolling Eyes
Naughty Gingerbread Ninja wrote:... *sorry Marm, no idea what you're saying* Surprised
let's see if i can explain this, err, if you grow a plant that gives you 100 gold upon harvesting it and saves 5 sq foot of rain forest that should be rather efficient (money wise), and indeed the end result is a number that is negative by 65 or something.
now, a plant that gives 100 gold on harvesting but saves 10 sq foot of rain forest should be more efficient, therefor be an even lower number, but using this equation, the result is half the negative number, say minus 32 - but that's closer to zero, and a higher number:/
so i've gone wrong with the maths somewhere:/
or maybe i've gone right but am thinking about it wrong, ://

Mmm. Wouldn't you say, Abby?

mmm yeah. I would say.
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Post  Naughty Gingerbread Ninja on Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:33 pm

But Ronald's extremely brilliant, no doubt about that. Twisted Evil
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Post  Marmaduke on Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:31 am

Naughty Gingerbread Ninja wrote:But Ronald's extremely brilliant...
i won't argue that i used to be, but i know what i am these days, and that's in need of the help of all others^_^
ahhh, i'm going to be consulting people about this matter later today i think:/
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Post  Amarantha on Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:06 am

Marmaduke wrote:Here i've calculated the total cost of a plant to grow to harvest, where the total cost is the cost to water+the original cost of the seed:

time in hours
bears fruit (max time)=B
wilts if not watered for=W
cost to buy=C

[(B/W)+C]/SQ=Efficiency(GOLD PER FOOT)
example:
BL
E=[(288/36)+5]/2
E=6.5 <- Does this mean that we spend 6.5 gold in this case for 1 foot we save?

note: the smaller the number the more cost effective the plant^_^

The original concept for the idea was first noted by John McP (San Diego, CA), when he noted the square foot per day that was saved for plants, and put them in order of highest value first. Little has changed in the order of the list since the cost was added to the calculation but it is interesting to note the, although the Loveflower and the Christmas Tree have different care instructions, the cost effectiveness is exactly the same^_^


Pink Plant & Poppy=1.5
Loveflower & Christmas Tree=2.67 <- so in these cases we are still saving 1 foot for less gold

Moyogi Bonsai=2.9
Opis Centiflora=3.15
Chie & Taiyo Bonsai=3.3
Iceflower & Poinsettia=4
Apis Melliflora=4.73
Carmena Uniflora=5
Duclia Somniflora & Carmena Aviflora=5.2
Rosa Amora & Solaris Igniflorus=5.45
Stella Velleflora & Luna Serena=5.92
Opis Magiflora=6.3
Bellis Lycaena, Nestflower & Thornbloom herbs=6.5
Cumulus Albiflorus=7
Sundragon & Springcrown Herbs=7.3
Snowstar & Nightrose Herbs=7.83
Mountain Whisper herb=8.5
Flora Praecocia=9.5
Rosa Praecocia & Tulipa Praecocia=10.83
Fructus Randomus=11
Odonata Igniflora & Lilium Ranidae=14.5

Basically the limited edition flowers allow us to save the same footage for much less gold than the ones we use to go up levels.
So if we are not in a "level reaching" race and all we want is to save the forest we can just plant those...

Did I understand all wrong? Shocked
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Post  Amarantha on Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:26 pm

Hmmm... I never got an answer... I guess I did get it all wrong Sad
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Post  Marmaduke on Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:12 pm

Amarantha wrote:Hmmm... I never got an answer... I guess I did get it all wrong Sad
ahh, no, err you got it right, as in the same way i understand, what i've done here, that is to say that if i've not gone wrong then you're getting the truth of it here.
the final number should be feet saved per gold spent^_^
all three points you made are spot-on with my findings^_^
err, though it goes i bit weird when you start adding in the "anti-cost" of plants that produce gold:/

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Post  nicolle on Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:03 pm

Naughty Gingerbread Ninja wrote:But Ronald's extremely brilliant, no doubt about that. Twisted Evil

Oh I wouldn't dispute that for a minute. I married a mathemetician though, so I can do without it in my spare time too Laughing
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Post  Amarantha on Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:27 am

Marmaduke wrote:
Amarantha wrote:Hmmm... I never got an answer... I guess I did get it all wrong Sad
ahh, no, err you got it right, as in the same way i understand, what i've done here, that is to say that if i've not gone wrong then you're getting the truth of it here.
the final number should be feet saved per gold spent^_^
all three points you made are spot-on with my findings^_^
err, though it goes i bit weird when you start adding in the "anti-cost" of plants that produce gold:/

maybe Mike's intention is just helping save the rainforest without having to spend more gold than the minimum needed, we always have the choice to spend more and climb stages with new flowers...
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Post  Dawn on Thu May 28, 2009 7:13 am

Shouldn't the bonsais be upranked? I mean, they have a small wilt balance AND they take an enormeous amount of time to bear fruit! confused
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Post  Marmaduke on Thu May 28, 2009 10:23 am

Dawn wrote:Shouldn't the bonsais be upranked? I mean, they have a small wilt balance AND they take an enormeous amount of time to bear fruit! confused
actually, i don't know, i don't even now know if the numbers are still relevant or accurate:/
my head gave me a hard time with these numbers before, i think i'm getting very bad at the numbers game, so apologies there for that:(
don't accept these numbers to be factual, really it's more of a feeling than an empirical measurement.
there major thing about these calculation though is the footage per gold, let's run that

(without Diamond Dusting):
water twice a day for 30 days (very rough), that's 60 gold spent to harvest at 20 foot.
3 gold per foot.

carmena avifloras:
... 21 gold to harvest 5 feet
roughly 4 gold per foot.
now where was i? oh yeah, err, that's not taking in to account the cost to buy the seed in the first place and any gold that may be gifted as a result of harvesting the plants.
i feel that if the gold bonus was taken in to account then the number should run negative, but i recall that that didn't happen, so i won't be at all surprised to find out that this whole topic has just been a bit of a brainfart (error) from me.
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Post  Dawn on Thu May 28, 2009 2:51 pm

Lol! Mathematics wasn't actually my favorite course =D
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